How Did a 60-Year Old American Veteran Wind Up Fighting in Ukraine?

In Episode 18 of his podcast "In the Room with Peter Bergen," New America Vice President and ASU Professor of Practice Peter Bergen interviews Malcom Nance about his joining Ukraine's International Legion:

Malcolm Nance was retired from the U.S. Navy, but the Russian invasion of its neighbor compelled him to dig out his old weapons and equipment, and join up with the International Legion fighting in Ukraine. He explains how the International Legion functions, what it’s like to take a direct hit from a Russian shell, and why he doesn’t believe he and his fellow legionnaires have run afoul of an 18th century law against Americans fighting in other people’s wars.

Listen to the episode here, and see the full set of episodes here.