Dec. 5, 2023
In Episode 33 of his podcast "In the Room with Peter Bergen," New America Vice President and ASU Professor of Practice Peter Bergen interviews Michael Vickers about what it takes to beat the Russian army:
Hollywood may have portrayed him as a nerd, but Mike Vickers was the superstar architect of America’s covert war in the 1980s that drove the Soviet army out of Afghanistan. And this alum of the Green Berets and the CIA has some ideas about how to do the same thing in Ukraine today.
Listen to the episode here, and see the full set of episodes here.